Can definitely relate to the helpers dilemma and to be fair that's ingrained in society as well where helping professions usually are the lower earning ones. I'm in a type of profession that will never earn me a lot of money but is such hard work and definitely burns me out at times. I could make three times as much in a different organisation but I believe in what I do, so sacrifice the money. Society really should be paying more to helping professions.
I agree, society should pay helping professions better. I used to think, when I taught high school, that teachers don’t teach for the money. But then I noticed something about all my retired teaching friends…they were REALLY good at managing their money, and when they retired, they were all really really well off. Not multi-millionaire dirty ugly rich, but rather the kind of very happy comfortable kind of wealth. That’s the kind of wealth I want, the kind that values the meaning of a dollar and one who has earned it and knows how to enjoy it.
I have many times encountered this approach to solving the "money problem" - trying to reprogram oneself, to work oneself spiritually out of the "scarcitiy mindset". While I DO think, that it has some truths in it, my problem with this approach is only that I truly DO THINK that capitalism is the problem of our time. I truly don't want to engage in it (or just as little as possible) and I have the feeling that the more I try to (spiritually) convince myself that it is ok to participate, the more I deviate from my values.
Why have I always, since I was still very young, admired people who have managed to free themselves from the need of earning money or dealing with money? Some names: Rob Greenfield - USA, Mark Boyle - UK
But what if those inner feelings, that subliminal suspicion that there is something wrong with charging money for certain things (the commodification of everything), are not only right, but point to a much bigger truth: our whole system, which is based on capitalist thinking, is imoral because it is based on extraction and on profit - one's loss is the other's gain. (For some to be rich, there have to be others who are poor.)
What if there is actually no flaw in our inner compass? What if what we think is "healing" is actually an attempt to override the signals of that inner compass?
you pose some really valid questions that I have grappled with for most of my life. And honestly, it was this challenge I struggled with in my head about capitalism that held me back.
I think what I am starting to realize is that I don't have to think of spirituality and capitalism as and either/or situation but rather as a both/and situation. A wise soul once asked me to consider "what else might be true?" to look outside the box of either/or thinking and into "how can these two things that seem to be opposed actually mutually and happily coexist?"
there is a way for earning money to not be about extraction and profit but to be about the abundant cycle of sharing and caring and generosity and flow. as I pull myself away from the mindset of "one's loss is the other's gain" (which is an either/or mindset) into a bigger possibility of abundance is everywhere, I am finding these paradigms shifting for me.
now, the concept of "healing" is a whole other thing. What if we don't need "healing" as that implies there is something inherently wrong. what if we need to recognize that all the things we have gone through and experienced (even if some of them are painful and challenging) are opportunities for us to evolve and grow and reach into greater awarenesses of abundance?
if we think of capitalism as a problem, we are focused on the problem paradigm. if we focus on scarcity mindset as a wound and that we are broken, that brokenness attitude keeps us in that world.
this program is an invitation to shift perspective and embrace the both/and and recognize that scarcity, capitalism, and even "trauma wounds" all have their place as beautiful things that help us to evolve and grow and emerge into greater awareness.
I hear you, Marta, for most of my 52 years I grappled with these same thoughts you mention here. Big TIME! This program is an invitation to myself as much as to others to dance for a few weeks with the concept that maybe, just maybe, other things may be true. I have no idea what will happen, but I"m curious to see.
I totally respect that decision. and I appreciate you for following.
a little tidbit I just learned from a dear friend who is a financial wealth advisor who presented to my Creator Retreat cohort yesterday...I think you might find this interesting...
the word wealth, etymologically roots back to the word "weal" which really means "well-being"...that originally wealth was about well-being as a WHOLE, not just money. Culture and society (in its scarcity) has limited the true meaning of the word.
i personally think that the word "wealth" has been a negative trigger in my mind, because of capitalism and the profit/problem ick...I need to reclaim it for its true meaning inside me, and as I do that, I can reconcile with the either/or vs both/and of capitalism and wealth as a whole.
just something I've been contemplating lately that I'm sure will spill out of my mouth during the AMM program.
I resonated so much with helper's dilemma and the safety piece Teri. But also...last week I quantum leaped. It feels like I'm a whole new person lol. The statements and stories going in my head feel like echoes somehow? Like a fading part of me. I'm hoping to completely integrate this new self and root fully in this powerful version of me through AMM! I can't wait!!
oh honey, I know that feeling of “echoes” in the head. when you make a quantum leap there is an energy of a part of yourself fading. I look back on some aspects of my life and I totally understsand why people say “in another life”…as I don’t even recognize who I was then.
Can definitely relate to the helpers dilemma and to be fair that's ingrained in society as well where helping professions usually are the lower earning ones. I'm in a type of profession that will never earn me a lot of money but is such hard work and definitely burns me out at times. I could make three times as much in a different organisation but I believe in what I do, so sacrifice the money. Society really should be paying more to helping professions.
I agree, society should pay helping professions better. I used to think, when I taught high school, that teachers don’t teach for the money. But then I noticed something about all my retired teaching friends…they were REALLY good at managing their money, and when they retired, they were all really really well off. Not multi-millionaire dirty ugly rich, but rather the kind of very happy comfortable kind of wealth. That’s the kind of wealth I want, the kind that values the meaning of a dollar and one who has earned it and knows how to enjoy it.
So true, people who have had to earn their dollars understand the value much more
I have many times encountered this approach to solving the "money problem" - trying to reprogram oneself, to work oneself spiritually out of the "scarcitiy mindset". While I DO think, that it has some truths in it, my problem with this approach is only that I truly DO THINK that capitalism is the problem of our time. I truly don't want to engage in it (or just as little as possible) and I have the feeling that the more I try to (spiritually) convince myself that it is ok to participate, the more I deviate from my values.
Why have I always, since I was still very young, admired people who have managed to free themselves from the need of earning money or dealing with money? Some names: Rob Greenfield - USA, Mark Boyle - UK
But what if those inner feelings, that subliminal suspicion that there is something wrong with charging money for certain things (the commodification of everything), are not only right, but point to a much bigger truth: our whole system, which is based on capitalist thinking, is imoral because it is based on extraction and on profit - one's loss is the other's gain. (For some to be rich, there have to be others who are poor.)
What if there is actually no flaw in our inner compass? What if what we think is "healing" is actually an attempt to override the signals of that inner compass?
you pose some really valid questions that I have grappled with for most of my life. And honestly, it was this challenge I struggled with in my head about capitalism that held me back.
I think what I am starting to realize is that I don't have to think of spirituality and capitalism as and either/or situation but rather as a both/and situation. A wise soul once asked me to consider "what else might be true?" to look outside the box of either/or thinking and into "how can these two things that seem to be opposed actually mutually and happily coexist?"
there is a way for earning money to not be about extraction and profit but to be about the abundant cycle of sharing and caring and generosity and flow. as I pull myself away from the mindset of "one's loss is the other's gain" (which is an either/or mindset) into a bigger possibility of abundance is everywhere, I am finding these paradigms shifting for me.
now, the concept of "healing" is a whole other thing. What if we don't need "healing" as that implies there is something inherently wrong. what if we need to recognize that all the things we have gone through and experienced (even if some of them are painful and challenging) are opportunities for us to evolve and grow and reach into greater awarenesses of abundance?
if we think of capitalism as a problem, we are focused on the problem paradigm. if we focus on scarcity mindset as a wound and that we are broken, that brokenness attitude keeps us in that world.
this program is an invitation to shift perspective and embrace the both/and and recognize that scarcity, capitalism, and even "trauma wounds" all have their place as beautiful things that help us to evolve and grow and emerge into greater awareness.
I hear you, Marta, for most of my 52 years I grappled with these same thoughts you mention here. Big TIME! This program is an invitation to myself as much as to others to dance for a few weeks with the concept that maybe, just maybe, other things may be true. I have no idea what will happen, but I"m curious to see.
Thank you for your detailed answer. I am curious but also reluctant. I will for the moment just follow your articles.
I totally respect that decision. and I appreciate you for following.
a little tidbit I just learned from a dear friend who is a financial wealth advisor who presented to my Creator Retreat cohort yesterday...I think you might find this interesting...
the word wealth, etymologically roots back to the word "weal" which really means "well-being"...that originally wealth was about well-being as a WHOLE, not just money. Culture and society (in its scarcity) has limited the true meaning of the word.
i personally think that the word "wealth" has been a negative trigger in my mind, because of capitalism and the profit/problem ick...I need to reclaim it for its true meaning inside me, and as I do that, I can reconcile with the either/or vs both/and of capitalism and wealth as a whole.
just something I've been contemplating lately that I'm sure will spill out of my mouth during the AMM program.
I resonated so much with helper's dilemma and the safety piece Teri. But also...last week I quantum leaped. It feels like I'm a whole new person lol. The statements and stories going in my head feel like echoes somehow? Like a fading part of me. I'm hoping to completely integrate this new self and root fully in this powerful version of me through AMM! I can't wait!!
oh honey, I know that feeling of “echoes” in the head. when you make a quantum leap there is an energy of a part of yourself fading. I look back on some aspects of my life and I totally understsand why people say “in another life”…as I don’t even recognize who I was then.